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Fireball E5
Joined: 25 Jun 2016 Posts: 262 Location: Melbourne. Australia
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 12:23 am Post subject: Military problem #1 |
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You are the dictator of a small South American nation and most of the free world is getting pretty annoyed with your human rights abuses and threats towards to global peace.
In a last ditch attempt to stay in power you have managed to make a military hardware purchase on the black market using your considerable gold and diamond resources.
Time is of the essence before the embargo kicks in so you are only allowed to buy 10 different types of military hardware:
100 Main battle tanks
200 wheeled apcs
80 tracked apcs or ifvs
20 Jet fighters
20 attack aircraft
40 attack helicopters
4 diesel subs
2 guided missile cruisers or destroyers
4 frigates
8 anti air missile systems
You can split your choices so for MBTs you can have 50 leopards II and 50 t-90 for example.
Also you can choose from any equipment from around the world except prototypes.
Go to it defend your right to live your life as a dictator.
FB _________________ There are things in the universe far more evil then a Rubber Duck |
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Begemot
Joined: 18 Aug 2011 Posts: 81
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 12:40 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't waste money on any of these. Look at the Taliban. They've defeated the most Powerful Military In The History of the World (was that the title of a Mel Brooks movie?) without any of this stuff. Big expensive equipment are big targets and that is what the "free world" countries are designed to deal with best. Never play to your opponent's strengths. _________________ "The devil is an optimist if he thinks he can make men worse than they are." - Karl Kraus |
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Fireball E5
Joined: 25 Jun 2016 Posts: 262 Location: Melbourne. Australia
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Well yes but not if you have a country to defend and want to stay as a head of state in your 400 room castle then Taliban type fighters are not any good to you are they? _________________ There are things in the universe far more evil then a Rubber Duck |
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CG2 E5
Joined: 21 May 2012 Posts: 284 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Spend it all on oil drilling or mining equipment and buy American protection with the money earned from selling the resources - that's what most dictators do and seems to work OK. Maybe lease some land for a base too. _________________ CG2 |
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chrisswim E5
Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 2949 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Fireball, that is suitable force to participate in the UIN. For the armor, you can purchase one model.
So which country is enforcing an embargo? _________________ Chris |
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redleg E5
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 1096 Location: Riverside, CA
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 10:51 am Post subject: |
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I would purchase 1 tank, 1 wheeled APC, 1 tracked APC, and 1 attack helicopter from each country: US, UK, Russia, China, Israel, Germany. I would just buy one of each and tell them that I am evaluating them and that a huge purchase was forthcoming to whoever won me over. Then I would let them wine and dine me. I would make sure that they all knew how fond I am of German beer, Mexican food, and redheads.
For the jet fighters I would take F-16s, but instead of the James Bond revolving license plates, they would have changing national markings to make them look like they belong to any air force in the world. Then instead of attack planes I would purchase C-130s with the same changing national markings, but inside they would be fixed up like the Austin Powers party jet.
Once the world gets sick of my drunken debauchery I would throw my homeboys and all the redheads into the C-130s and fly to Europe where we could easily navigate around with our F-16 escort, just changing our national markings and sticking to the multitude of countries that use F-16s and C-130s. Eventually we will settle in Switzerland where my considerable gold and diamond wealth will buy me citizenship and a modest estate near Zurich. _________________ "Artillery lends dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl".
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Fireball E5
Joined: 25 Jun 2016 Posts: 262 Location: Melbourne. Australia
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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No...No..No snap out of it guys the dictator thing is just a back story, basically its like the fave ships I did before, I wanted you to list your favoured weapons in the 10 categories.
P.S This is not I repeat this is not an attempt to join the Imagi nations with all respect to Chris because hi is a good fellow.
P.S 2 Maybe I need a drink to communicate more eloquently
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redleg E5
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 1096 Location: Riverside, CA
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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So no redheads?
So are you looking for favorites, or what we think is best or most capable equipment?
Here are my favorites:
Main Battle Tank: M60A3
Wheeled APC: LAV Mortar Carrier
Tracked APC: M113A3
Jet Fighter: F-4E
Attack Aircraft: F-16C (not dedicated attack aircraft, but the only one I ever had drop bombs for me so it is my favorite)
Attack Helicopter: AH-64
Diesel Sub: No favorite
Guided Missile Cruiser or Destroyer: Spruance class destroyer
Frigate: No favorite
Anti Air Missile System: _________________ "Artillery lends dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl".
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Fireball E5
Joined: 25 Jun 2016 Posts: 262 Location: Melbourne. Australia
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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That's what i'm talking about...…fave or most capable but do indicate which you're going for _________________ There are things in the universe far more evil then a Rubber Duck |
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CG2 E5
Joined: 21 May 2012 Posts: 284 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 12:22 am Post subject: |
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I'm with redleg - I've spent far more on 1:1 scale redheads than I have on 1:1 military equipment! _________________ CG2 |
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Donald M. Scheef E5
Joined: 24 Jun 2006 Posts: 1506 Location: Waukegan, Illinois USA
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Although the original posting is clearly intended for current (post-Cold War) equipment, my favorite era is World War II. Therefore, I am going to give my picks from this era, with some modifications.
Main Battle Tank (medium tank for this era): Soviet T-34/85
Wheeled APC and Tracked APC: Since neither wheeled or fully-tracked APCs were widely used during WWII, I am going to group these together as half-track APC - German Sd.Kfz. 251. Most of these would be the basic infantry-carrier with a mixture of command, anti-tank, gun support, anti-aircraft, engineer, etc. subtypes
Fighter: US North American P-51 Mustang
Attack Aircraft: Germany Junkers Ju-88
Attack Helicopter (Since this type of aircraft did not exist during WWII, I am selecting an armored attack aircraft): Soviet Ilyushin Il-2 Sturmovik
Submarine: German Type XXI
Cruiser/destroyer: US Fletcher-class
Frigate: UK Loch-class
Anti-aircraft (not missile) systems: Bofors 40 mm
BTW: for modern forces, I think you should have a significant number of transport/assault helicopters and fewer attack helicopters.
Don S. _________________ "When a fire starts to burn,
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
D'oh! |
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Fireball E5
Joined: 25 Jun 2016 Posts: 262 Location: Melbourne. Australia
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Any ww2 dictator would be proud with your selection Mr. Sheef .
I'm curious why did you gp with T34/85 , the biggest improvement on the T-34 series?
FB _________________ There are things in the universe far more evil then a Rubber Duck |
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Fireball E5
Joined: 25 Jun 2016 Posts: 262 Location: Melbourne. Australia
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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What are redheads.
Are with talking about Irish beauties with flaming red hair? _________________ There are things in the universe far more evil then a Rubber Duck |
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Donald M. Scheef E5
Joined: 24 Jun 2006 Posts: 1506 Location: Waukegan, Illinois USA
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Why did I go with the T-34/85? As you stated, it's an improvement on earlier versions of the T-34. I seriously considered the German Panther, but it suffered reliability problems and high cost. The US M4 Sherman was just not as good (on an individual basis) as the T-34 or Panther. I seriously considered the British Comet but I had to make a choice. The Centurion and M48 Patton were too late. The Tiger had massive firepower and armor but was too slow. French tanks would have been considered only if choices were limited to pre-1940. The Italian and Japanese tanks (and all minor combatant countries) were out of the running.
Don S. _________________ "When a fire starts to burn,
here's a lesson you must learn:
something-something and you'll see
you'll avoid catastrophe."
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piersyf E5
Joined: 04 Oct 2008 Posts: 615 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I'll play...
WW2 (thanks Donald)
Fave tank is the comet. Never got a chance to prove itself, but in every way the equal to the T34-85 if not superior (although the MoD rated them equal).
Wheeled APC, can only really think of 1, the M20. The M3 scout maybe, but the M20 is far cooler.
Tracked APC, RAM Kangaroo.
Fighters, my favourite is the Tempest.
Attack aircraft, the Mosquito, then Typhoon. Ju88 a very close third.
Fave sub, Balao class.
Fave cruiser (no missile) Hipper
Fave destroyer (no missile) Battle class. Maybe Gearing.
Frigates, captain class.
AA system... difficult choice between bofors and the 88 flak.
Cold War
Fave tank, Centurion.
Wheeled APC, Humber pig. Just because.
Tracked APC, M113
Fighter, F8 Crusader
Attacker, Difficult choice between Skyraider and Corsair II
Attack helo, Mi-24
Diesel sub, Oberon class.
Modern
Fave tank, Challenger 1. Longest first round kill (5,100m), and the best description of survivability I've ever read; "if there were any strikes, it had no effect."
Wheeled APC, LAV-25
Tracked APC, Bradley
Jet fighter, F-35
Attack aircraft, A-10
attack helicopter, Apache Longbow _________________ There is no right or wrong, only decisions and consequences. |
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