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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CG2 wrote:
I'm going to cast some votes for the 1/1200 napoleonic micronauts. It's been a long time since any manufacturer released a new ship so the market is there for the taking!

- British 1st Rate 120 guns Caledonia - the British standard for post-Trafalgar 1st Rates.
- British 3rd Rate 74 guns Vengeur - the so-called Surveyors class of 40 ships, also known as the 'forty thieves' due to alleged short cuts in the dockyards!
- British 5th Rate Frigate 44 guns Indefatigable - cos I'm fed up with American frigates winning.
- British 5th Rate Frigate 40 guns Endymion
- Generic Collier - not very exciting but huge numbers and great targets for skirmishes and small convoys


Can pretty much add my vote for all of the above!

I might also say that GHQ should revisit the whole range and consider doing away with the "Full Sail" vs. "Battle Sail" and revamp the masts and sails somewhat along the Rod Langton approach...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I replace mine with Langton sails anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do sometimes as well but, that's kinda the point of revamping the line... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Consolidated Micronaut Wish List Summary

Replaced by updated list 2020-01-04.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My new request for Micronauts consists of minor warship types from the mid-1930s.

1. WWII Norway minelayer Olav Tryggvason, 1934-40 appearance
2. WWII Bulgaria torpedo boat Druzki class, 1934-45 appearance
3. WWII Manchukuo river gunboat Shun Tien class, 1934-44 appearance *
4. WWII Japan submarine chaser Ch 1 class, 1935-45 appearance
5. WWII Italy submarine chaser Albatros
6. WWII Soviet torpedo boat Uragan class, with closed bridge
7. WWII Norway minelayer Frøya, mid 1930s-40 appearance
8. WWII Cuba sloop Cuba, mid 1930s-45 appearance
9. WWII Greece torpedo boat Kyzikos class, mid 1930s-41 appearance
10. WWII UK (India) sloop Indus
11. WWII Denmark fishery protection vessel Hejmdal, 1935-43 appearance
12. WWII UK patrol vessel Kingfisher class, 1935-41 appearance

* Note: They were disarmed in 1944 and rearmed in 1945 by the Soviets.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we are, about half-way through GHQ’s 2019-2020 season. At this time, I am going to provide a boost for some ships that are not in the “top 100” of the Consolidated Micronaut Wish List. I would encourage any other enthusiast to submit their list of favorites. For enthusiasts of modern naval warfare, please note that my interest is pre-1950 ships. Modern ships really need more votes in the Wish List.
• From 15 to 16 votes: WWII UK destroyer V & W-classes, fast (short-range) escort conversion. The long-range escort conversions have more votes (deservedly) but the fast escorts are interesting, especially those with twin 6-pdr 100cwt mounts for improved anti-E-boat capability.
• From 14 to 15 votes: WWI UK battle cruiser Renown-class, 1917 appearance. Repulse saw combat at Heligoland Bight in this appearance.
• From 13 to 14 votes: pre-Dreadnought Japan battleship Mikasa; flagship of the Japanese fleet at the Battle of Tsushima.
• From 12 to 13 votes: WWII Japan destroyer Mutsuki-class, fast transport conversion. These conversions of obsolescent ships were useful during the initial advances in the Pacific. Many were lost in the ** CENSORED ** campaign.
• From 11 to 12 votes: WWII USA attack transport Bayfield (APA 23). This relatively large class of attack transports became important in the late-war Pacific campaigns.
• From 10 to 11 votes: WWI USA battleship Colorado (BB 45) class, as originally built. Although too late for WWI combat, I think GHQ should continue to series of USA battleships.
• From 9 to 10 votes: WWI Italy battleship Dante Alighieri. This unique ship appeals to me because of its appearance.
• From 8 to 9 votes: WWII UK cruiser Curacoa, anti-aircraft conversion. Rammed and sunk with great loss of life by Queen Mary.
• From 7 to 8 votes: WWI Japan battlecruiser Kongo-class, as originally built. I think GHQ should begin a series of WWI Japanese ships.
• From 6 to 7 votes: WWII USA battleship North Carolina (BB 55)-class, with original 1.1” anti-aircraft armament.
• From 5 to 6 votes: WWII Germany torpedo boat T 1937 (T 13)-class. These were essentially small destroyers, widely used along the north-west coast of Europe.
• From 4 to 5 votes: WWI USA destroyer Paulding (DD 22)-class. This fills in a gap among the early USA destroyers.
• From 3 to 4 votes: WWII Japan transport Type 2D. Approximately the Japanese equivalent of mass-produced Liberty ships but too few and too late. They do provide targets for Allies submarines and aircraft.
• From 2 to 3 votes: WWII Germany hospital ship Wilhelm Gustaloff (Lazarettschiffe D). Sunk with massive loss of life by Soviet submarine in 1945.
• From 1 to 2 votes: WWII UK battleship Royal Oak, following 1936 refit. This represents an early-war version of the Revenge-class without all the anti-aircraft weapons added later. Royal Oak was sunk by a German submarine in Scapa Flow.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will attempt to update this summary occasionally. The sequence is based on number of “votes,” era (Napoleonic [1/1200 scale], Era of Steam, Ironclad, pre-Dreadnought, WWI, WWII, early Cold War, late Cold War, and post-Cold War), country, and name.

Because of the length of the total list (about 4145 different items), I am including in the posted summary only those items for which there are sixteen or more votes. This reduces the posted list to 107 items. For the current rate at which GHQ is producing new Micronauts, it would take more than eight years to produce just these models.

For those of you who do not see items for which you have voted, I continue to track all the votes. If an item gets additional votes to raise the total to the top 100, it will reappear on the posted summary. Feel free to inquire in the forum or by private message about any specific item(s) not appearing in the posted summary.

As of 2020-01-04, the summary is:

Forty-seven votes
WWII Germany Schnellboote (E-boats), S-100 type

Thirty-nine votes:
WWII Japan destroyer Akatsuki ((暁)-class
WWII Japan destroyer Kagero (陽炎)-class, late-war modification with additional anti-aircraft
WWII UK destroyer War Emergency-classes “S”, “T”, “U”, “V”, and “W”

Thirty-eight votes:
WWII Soviet destroyer Soobrazitelnyi [Сообразительный] (Type 7U)-class
WWII UK light cruisers Scylla & Charybdis
WWII UK heavy cruiser York

Thirty-six votes:
WWII UK destroyer “V” & “W”-classes, long-range escort conversions

Thirty-five votes
WWII UK Fleet Air Arm aircraft (Blackburn Skua, Fairey Albacore, Fairey Barracuda, Fairey Firefly, Fairey Fulmar, Gloster Sea Gladiator, and/or Hawker Sea Hurricane)
WWII UK battleship Duke of York, Anson, Howe, late-war appearance
Early Cold War Soviet cruiser Sverdlov (Свердлов, Project 68 bis)-class

Thirty-four votes
WWII Germany aircraft pack 2 (Bf 109, Bf 110, Fw 190, He 111, He 115, He 177, Ju 88, Ju 188, and/or Me 410)

Thirty-three votes:
Pre-Dreadnought Germany battleship Braunschweig-class
WWII UK destroyer War Emergency-classes “Q” and “R”

Thirty-two votes:
WWII USA fast attack transport Charles Lawrence (APD 37) or Crosley (APD 87)-class

Thirty-one votes:
WWII UK light cruiser “modified Colony”-class
WWII UK destroyer War Emergency-classes “O” and “P” with 4” guns
Early Cold War USA destroyer Gearing, FRAM I conversion

Thirty votes:
WWII Japan late-war carrier-based aircraft (Aichi B7A Ryusei [Grace], Kawanishi N1K3-A Shiden [George], Mitsubishi A7M Reppu [Sam], Nakajima C6N Saiun [Myrt], and/or Yokosuka D4Y3 [Judy])
WWII UK destroyer War Emergency-classes “Z” and “Ca”
WWII USA light cruiser Worcester (CL 144)-class

Twenty-nine votes:
WWII Soviet battleship Sovyetskiy Soyuz design (Сове́тский Сою́з, Project 23)
WWII UK light cruiser Coventry/Curlew, anti-aircraft conversion
WWII USA light aircraft carrier Saipan (CVL-48)-class

Twenty-eight votes:
Pre-Dreadnought Germany light cruiser Gazelle-class
WWI UK destroyer “K” (ex-Acasta)-class
WWI UK destroyer “L”-class (ex-Laforey-class), 3-funnel
WWII Italy destroyer Folgore-class
WWII USA heavy cruiser Indianapolis (CA 35), late-war appearance

Twenty-six votes:
WWI UK light cruiser Boadicea-class
WWI UK seaplane tender Engadine

Twenty-five votes:
WWI UK destroyer Admiralty “S”-class
WWI UK destroyer leader Marksman-class
WWII France destroyer Vauquelin-class
WWII UK heavy cruiser London-class (unmodified - Devonshire, Shropshire, Suss*x)

Twenty-four votes:
WWI Germany destroyer G85 through G95
WWI UK destroyer leader Faulknor-class
WWII France torpedo boat La Melpomène-class
WWII Japan destroyer Shimakaze (島風)
WWII UK light cruiser Emerald

Twenty-three votes:
Pre-Dreadnought UK battleship Canopus-class
WWII Japan torpedo boat Otori (鴻)-class
WWII UK aircraft carrier Indomitable
WWII UK heavy cruiser Kent (Australia)

Twenty-two votes:
WWI UK light cruiser Blonde-class
WWII France destroyer Bourrasque-class
WWII Italy destroyer Oriani-class
WWII Italy torpedo boat Spica-class
WWII USA attack and medium bomber aircraft (Douglas A-20 Boston, Douglas A-26 Invader, North American B-25 Mitchell (H or J type), Martin B-26 Marauder)

Twenty-one votes:
WWI Germany destroyer V25 through V48
WWI UK light cruiser “C”-class, Caledon group
WWI UK light cruiser “C”-class, Ceres group
WWI UK destroyer Talisman-class
WWII German amphibious craft (F-lighters, Siebel Ferry, Marinefährprahm, Pioneer Landungboote)
WWII Italy destroyer Maestrale-class
WWII US attack cargo ship Harris (APA 2)-class (see design 1029, 535’ types)

Twenty votes:
WWI Germany destroyer G101 through G104
WWI UK minelayer Abdiel (converted Marksman leader)
WWII France battleship Courbet, 1935-1940 appearance
WWII France battleship Paris, 1935-1940 appearance
WWII Italy motor torpedo boat MAS500 type
WWII Japan heavy cruiser Maya (摩耶), late-war appearance
WWII UK destroyer leaders Codrington, Exmouth, and Faulknor, as built
WWII UK destroyer leaders Hardy and Inglefield, as built
WWII UK aircraft carrier/transport Unicorn

Nineteen votes:
WWII Italy submarine “600-ton” type (Argonauta/Sirena/Perla/Adua/Acciaio-classes)
WWII Japan light cruiser Kuma (球磨)-class, pre-1940 appearance, correct length
WWII UK battleship Malaya, 1936 to 1942 appearance
WWII USA heavy cruiser Des Moines (CA 134)-class
WWII USA light cruiser Fargo (CL 106)-class
WWII USA battleship Iowa (BB 61)
Late Cold War Soviet corvette Tarantul III Mod (Project 1241.1MR)-class
Post-Cold War China corvette Jiangdao (Xinyang (信阳), Type 056)-class

Eighteen votes:
WWI UK armed merchant cruiser Otranto type
WWII Italy destroyer Freccia-class
WWII Japan battleship Haruna, 1944-1945 appearance
WWII Japan escort aircraft carrier Shinyo (神鷹)
WWII USA heavy cruiser Oregon City (CA 122)-class
Early Cold War USA aircraft carrier Midway (CV 41)-class, SCB-110 (angled deck) reconstruction
Post-Cold War USN aircraft (CH-53K King Stallion, EA-18G Growler, FA-18E/F Super Hornet, F-35C Lightning II, P-8 Poseidon)

Seventeen votes:
WWII France light cruiser Emile Bertin
WWII France destroyer Mogador-class
WWII Germany armed merchant cruiser Thor (HSK 4, Schiff 10, Raider E)
WWII Japan battleship Haruna, 1934-1943 appearance
WWII UK destroyer “A” & “B”-classes, late-war escort modifications
WWII UK light aircraft carrier Colossus-class
WWII USA repair ship Vestal (AR 4), as at Pearl Harbor
Late Cold War USA guided missile destroyer Kidd (DDG 993) – Post-Cold War Taiwan Kee Lung (DDG-1801)-class
Post-Cold War France aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle (R 91)

Sixteen votes:
Pre-WWII US aircraft carrier Langley (CV 1)
WWII Germany battlecruiser Gneiseneau (lengthened hull & 15-inch guns)
WWII Germany armed merchant cruiser Michel (HSK 9, Schiff 28, Raider H)
WWII Germany motor torpedo boat S-67 (S-38b) type
WWII Japan battleship A-150 ‘super-Yamato’ design (# 798, 799)
WWII Japan light cruiser Oyodo (大淀)
WWII Japan light cruiser Tama (多摩) and Kiso (木曾), post-1941 appearance with twin 5” AA aft
WWII Japan torpedo boat Tomozuru (友鶴)-class, reduced armament for stability
WWII UK 2-engine heavy bombers (Armstrong-Whitworth Whitley, Handley Page Hampton, and/or Vickers Wellington)
WWII UK 4-engined heavy bombers (Avro Lancaster, Handley-Page Halifax, and/or Short Stirling)
WWII UK Medium and attack bombers (Bristol Beaufighter, Bristol Blenheim, de Havilland Mosquito, and/or Lockheed Hudson)
WWII UK destroyer “V” & “W”-classes, fast (short-range) escort conversions
WWII USA aircraft carrier Lexington (CV 2), as at Coral Sea
Late Cold War Soviet missile corvette Tarantul III (project 1241.1M)-class
Late Cold War UK frigate Leander-class, Batch 2 Exocet conversion
Post-Cold War Japan destroyer Atago (愛宕)-class

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if these are already there but:

WWI UK V&W class (i.e. WWI fit)
WWI US Wickes/Clemson (also WWI fit)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For StarCruiser: I will add votes for WWI UK destroyer V&W classes and WWI USA destroyer Wickes/Clemson classes.

I would point out, however, that the existing UKN43, V&W class, and USN34, Paul Jones, are close representations of their appearance in WWI. The only significant difference I can see is that the UKN and USN models carry more depth charges than the ships did in 1918.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True - I forgot the Paul Jones was out there... Shaving some of the depth charges would probably be enough to use them.

The early V&W types did originally have 2x2 torpedo launchers instead of the 2x3 launchers on the current WWII minis and that might be a bit difficult to remove.

The current V&W mini would work fine for some of the WWI ships though.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right about the torpedo tubes: the "V" class were built able to carry triple tube mounts but were fitted with twin mounts to save time. In the 1920s all but the minelayers replaced the twin mounts with triple mounts. The minelayers replaced only the forward twin mount with a triple mount, retaining the aft twin mount.
V-class destroyers completed as destroyers: Vancouver, Vanessa, Vanity, Vega, Velox, Vendetta, Venetia, Verdun, Versatile, Verulam, Vesper, Vidette, Violent, Vimiera, Vittoria, Vivacious, Vivien, Vortigern, Vectis, Viceroy, and Viscount. Notes: Vortigern and Vectis built by White had ribbed funnels. Viceroy and Viscount built by Thornycroft had larger second funnels.

V-class destroyers completed with mine rails: Vanquisher, Vanoc, Vehement and Venturous.

V-class destroyers with mine rails added after completion: Velox, Versatile, Vesper, Vimiera, Vittoria, and Vortigern.

I'm going to rearrange the wish list to include "V" class completed as destroyers, "V" class completed with mine rails "V" class, White built, "V" class, "V" class Thornycroft specials, and "V" class with 5 torpedo tubes.

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