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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Canadian Government is asking the ROD to send someone to our country to help retrain our Armed Forces, so we would not lose so much lives.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ROD would be happy to send a team of experts up to Canada. We can start by sending a team of senior officers to discuss some ideas for transforming the New Canadian military into a competent, professional force. Give us a couple days to get our team and the curriculum together. We recommend you bring your senior officers from all of your services together in one place for the discussion. Any place is good, but we do like Vancouver and Montreal!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will meet in Vancover, but just to let you know we got some...issues with some protesters who are blaming us for the disaster in South America dispite the fact that they where not from our military.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you prefer, you can send your guys to the ROD for a week-long conference if you can't secure the meeting site.

And you need to understand that the protesters' anger is justified. Canada needs to accept responsibility for what happened in South America. Just because you somehow talked Someone else into getting beat up there, you still created the mess and then bailed and left Australia and India to fight for you.

Just calling it how I see it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada reminds me of a British Army officer's evaluation report I once read of... "I don't know why anyone would follow this man unless it were out of idle curiosity."
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada will send their Senior Officers from the RCN, RCAF, and the Canadian Army, to the ROD for the week long conference.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem, we can have the meeting at the ROD Joint Forces HQ, just outside the capital of Erinsburg. We have a very large conference room and supporting facilities that we can use.

We’re thinking a 5-day meeting, covering 2 topics per day and an open day at the end for following up on issues that need more attention. We will present a topic with some supporting ideas, along with recommendations for Canada. The rest of the time should be a group discussion. Feel free to bring whoever you want (we’ll be in the unclassified building) including participants from other nations if you wish. If we go over 50 people we will need to move from a conference room setting into an auditorium though.

Let us know when you want to arrive. We can start whenever you are ready.

Day 1
Morning Session: New Canada’s Military Culture
Afternoon Session: The Warrior Ethos

Day 2
Morning Session: Strategic Objectives
Afternoon Session: Expeditionary Warfare

Day 3
Morning Session: Modern Military Operations
Afternoon Session: Canada’s Army

Day 4
Morning Session: Canada’s Air Force
Afternoon Session: Canada’s navy

Day 5
Topics TBD
Barbecue and concert in the park
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are boarding a 707 now from CFB Toronto, they will heading your way soon.

The Canadian officials heading to the ROD meeting are

(Canadian Army): General, George Thornton.

(Royal Canadian Airforce): General, Vincent May

(Royal Canadian Navy): Admiral, Jason Kirk.

(Chief of Force Development): Major Tim Connor.

(Surgeon General): Brigadier General, Scott McCoy.

(Canadian Forces intelligence Command): Peter McDonald.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the ROD! Two non-descript gray vans pick the Canadian delegation up at the airport and transport the people and luggage to the ROD’s Joint Forces Headquarters about 20 miles away.

Joint Forces HQ is outside of the city in a secluded area off the main highway. It is a sprawling complex with very tight security. The vans pass through two security checkpoints before arriving at the visitor’s quarters where you will be staying. There are several other buildings in this area, as well as a small motor pool and another gate that leads to a higher security area.

A dashing young artillery captain named Ocampo has been assigned to be your liaison. He will be staying in the visitor’s quarters while you are here so that you can find him if you need anything. He has 2 staff sergeants assisting him and 2 junior enlisted to drive the vans.

Captain Ocampo points out the gym and dining facility. If you need anything let him know. Otherwise he will escort you to the conference room tomorrow morning at 7am to begin the Day 1 morning session.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Day 1 Morning Session: New Canada’s Military Culture

After breakfast, Captain Ocampo escorts the Canadian delegation over to one of the buildings in the complex – the Hans Kurth Memorial Meeting Center. It’s a simple building, designed to be a space for meetings, presentations, or briefings. The lobby is spacious. There are bathrooms to either side of the lobby as well as various artifacts from the ROD’s military history, such as a piece of the Berlin Wall and a Japanese machine gun captured during World War 2. There is also a plaque on the wall with a picture and biography of Captain Hans Kurth, an infantry company commander who was killed in Iraq in 2004.

Captain Ocampo leads you into a large conference room where you are greeted by the Minister of Defense, the Honorable Magnus McHammerhands. McHammerhands introduces the ROD chiefs of the Army, Navy, and Air Force. He also introduces you to the head of the Dalmatian Intelligence Service, the chief historian, and the 8 other field grade staff officers in the room. He also introduces a dalmatian named Daisy and a black lab named Emmie who are in the conference room, making the rounds to get head scratches and tummy rubs.

This morning we would like to talk about Canada’s military and its relationship with the rest of the country. We believe that one of the foundations of a professional military force is its relationship with the nation it serves. Here are some ideas and recommendations for discussion:
• The military represents the nation. Its behavior is a projection of national interest and ideals. The world will see the Canadian military and associate what they do with the country as a whole.
• The military should be representative of the nation. All ethnic, races, and religious groups should be represented. All regions and socioeconomic classes. There need not be quotas, but there should not be barriers to any particular group of people.
• The nation should support its military. There should be some level of pride in the troops and what they represent, even if specific policies are not popular.
• A military career should be a positive and attainable goal in Canada. There should be no military royalty or warrior class. Leaders should be appointed based on experience, merit, and ability, not on wealth or family tree.

The situation in Canada is not ideal at the moment, but much of the protesting seems to be directed at the government that deployed the troops, not at the troops themselves who are seen as only following orders. How can you, as the leaders of the Canadian military, build a stronger relationship with the country that you serve? How can you maintain military bearing and discipline, while embracing your citizens and their cultures?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(General, George Thornton): "The reason the Canadian Citizens joins the Military is for the adventure but its mostly for the money they earned for their services to our country and the added benefit of earning respect for their community, and to the main governing body, its more of a job then a refection of our country as a whole, pretty much our relationship goes as follows, Join the Military and you'll be justly rewarded for your dedication."

(General, Vincent May): "Just like what the Army General said, the career in the military is a Positive and attainable one as you get better income and earn respect if you sign up, but when it comes to Leadership through, that is one such thing that is excluded from the non-officer ranks, and theirs a good reason why its in place. if an officer that was raised from the ranks ether gets captured or decides to defect and joins a terror group like AL-Kabab, it gives the enemy a tactical advantage as they can gain the knowledge on Western military strategies and tactics and used them against us, which can be a headache to not only our military but to other Western military's as well, imagine seeing AL-Kabab in the battlefield using tactics similar to the USMC as their lead by a rouge US officer."

(Major Tim Connor): "The suggestion of cultural representation in the military is...a rather touchy and... uncomfortable subject, its rather... complicated to explain that part when it comes to our country of course."
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

General May, your comments are quite bewildering. Military tactics and doctrine are all over the internet. Anyone can download field manuals and SOPs, to include terrorist groups or even those crazy wargamers. Doctrine and tactics are already in the wrong hands! All the more reason to train your enlisted to be leaders. If you want to have a professional force, you must create professionals, not just day laborers in uniform.

It's your country and we are just making recommendations, but remember why you are here. You want to learn how to turn the Canadian military into a competent and professional force.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After a decent lunch at the DFAC, the participants return to the conference room for the afternoon session. Emmie is asleep in the corner of the room, but Daisy seems to have disappeared.


Day 1 Afternoon Session: The Warrior Ethos

Modern warfare is complex. It involves aircraft flying overhead, ships offshore, artillery and rockets firing deep into enemy territory, drones buzzing around, and fighting in the electronic and cyber spectrums. But all this high-tech gadgetry and multi-dimensional focus cannot change the fact that at some point a young soldier will have to take physical possession of a piece of ground and be prepared to shoot, stab, bludgeon, or strangle another human being that is trying to stop him.

To be blunt, Canada’s soldiers need to toughen up. They need to embrace the warrior spirit. They need to be prepared to do ugly, unimaginable things to survive and to win. This attitude needs to exist in every branch of the service, in combat units and in support units. Here are some points and recommendations to discuss:

• Canada’s soldiers need to learn controlled aggression. They need to want to fight, to be aggressive and competitive. They need to want to win. They also need to be disciplined though. They need to be cold and calculating in how, where, and when they give in to their violent animal instincts.
• Discipline is essential. Discipline is NOT mindless following of orders. Discipline is adherence to principles and a code of conduct. You want your troops to think.
• Troops should have pride in their units. Canada has a fantastic military heritage that it should leverage to build esprit de corps.
• Professional soldiers are experts in their field. They should know their weapon systems intimately, know how to fight without weapons, know field craft and survival. Officers and senior NCOs should know how to employ their units and weapons, how to coordinate with other units, know to take care of their troops. They should know LOGISTICS. Everyone should know how to maintain their own weapons, equipment, and vehicles.

Canada already got a taste of the warrior ethos at Grunt Week, but what can you do to impart this culture into the whole force? How do you get the troops to want to fight? How do you make them physically and mentally tough? How do you get them to laugh at the gas chamber?

Imagine for just a second a tired Canadian soldier. He’s been up for 36 hours. He just walked 5 miles in the dark with a 100 lb rucksack. His unit attacked an enemy position and prevailed after shooting and stabbing its way through a bunker complex. The adrenaline is wearing off and exhaustion is setting in. A civilian technician arrives to service this soldier’s rifle. The soldier jumps to his feet ready to punch the technician who is reaching for his rifle. This young warrior wants to beat the technician to death, but he controls himself. He is disciplined. He picks up his own rifle and moves away to service it himself alongside his mates, because he is a professional and he can maintain his own weapon.

How do you get your soldiers to be this tired Canadian soldier?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(Brigadier General, Scott McCoy): "Expose our soldiers in a Gas Chamber!?! Good God!!."

(General Thornton): "The New Canadian Army does not possess a Gas Chamber since the New Canadian Government banned all forms of WMD's in the country, it would be considered illegal to do that on our own troops, but the infantry are given training to use a Gas Mask in case the enemy uses such weapons on the field. As for this Tired Solider, we do see the benefits of toughing up the soldiers for the fight, but our Army budget went towards expertly training the crews of our Leapord 2 Tanks as the vehicles are rather expensive to replace if they are lost in Combat as we have to import it from Germany, the Infantry training was meant so we can quickly raise regiments easily and in a cost effective manner, we do discipline the troops to a certain extent, but its to ensure they will carry out the orders of the superior officers to the letter.

(Admiral Kirk): "Im not sure about giving the Royal Canadian Navy Crews the same kind of training as the Canadian Army, since we fight at sea in our ships, not on land, as the crew just needs to learn how to use the ships guns. discipline is necessary, but its mostly used by the ships officers to govern the crew and keep them in line and to root out any mutineers onboard, besides most of the crew serving are taken by the press gang system."
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently, we misunderstood the reason you came to this meeting. It seems that you flew halfway across the Pacific to make excuses for your poor military and why you cannot do anything to improve it. We will be happy to continue the meetings for the next 4 days if you are interested in learning how to build a professional military, but if you are just going to explain why you cannot change anything than you might as well just go home now. Thus far we have only heard excuses.

Why are you so terrified of a gas chamber? It used CS gas (also known as tear gas) and it’s made of plywood. If you would like, the ROD officers present in this room can take a collection of the money in our pockets at this moment and buy you a gas chamber. Then you can just toss a CS grenade into it for training if that isn’t too difficult for your troops.

And please tell me that your navy uses conscription and not impressment. The press gangs essentially kidnap people for service. Your navy crews certainly need to do more than just “learn to use their guns” and your attitude toward the enlisted sailors is abhorrent. Apparently, your attitude toward sailors is the same as your attitude toward the infantry. If you can’t afford all of your tanks AND highly training infantry, then you need to scale back the size of your army.
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