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Fireball
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:24 pm    Post subject: Competition no.7 Reply with quote

Well gentlemen we have had all the prizes for the post comps claimed so far, even yesterday someone claimed the winnings for the first comp which makes me very happy as i do not like loose ends.
Because i might be getting into modern ghq micronauts so today's question is from that era.
In 1972 the first of soviet hybrid cruiser/carrier was launched (Kiev) eventually additional 3 were build for a total of 4 ships in this class.
One of the four vessels differed substantially to her sisters, which one?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of the four were identical, but Baku (Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov) differed the most. It had phased-array radar, more anti-ship missiles, SA-N-9 in place of SA-N-4, no SA-N-3, 100 mm guns in place of 76 mm, and RBU-12000 in place of RBU-6000.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't mind, I would like to pose my own question. No prize - just to see if there are any other military trivia nuts out there.

Early in the first world war, the British armed merchant cruiser RMS Carmania and the German auxiliary cruiser SMS Cap Trafalgar engaged in battle. What was unusual about the ruse de guerre employed by the Cap Trafalgar in the days preceding the battle?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh Donald M. Scheef himself it is a pleasure dear Sir and such an in depth answer.
I have to keep this in mind when i propose naval questions.
Well Mr. Scheef to claim your rule set please PM me with your email.
And i don;t mind your asking trivia questions.. we could most likely learn a thing or two.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take a shot

SMS Cap Trafalgar was made to look like the english Carmania before the battle

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now i would like to ask a question of Mr. Sheef
I thinking of getting into GHQ naval moderns, i have ww1 and ww2 collection but want to try moderns.
So my question is: what are the dimensions of the Soviet Kiev class hybrid cruisers/carriers so that i can look for suitable bases and also how do you apply such large decals?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fireball: Yes, the Cap Trafalgar was posing as the British Carmania. One suspects that the bridge officers of the Carmania were more amused than confused by this subterfuge.

Since you are concerned with the size of he decals, I will give the extreme dimensions of the Kiev rather than the waterline values. In both cases the extreme values are significantly greater than the waterline values due to the clipper bow and overhang of the flight deck.

902 feet (275 m) length, 154 feet (47.2 m) wide
In 1/2400 scale this converts to 4.51 inches (11.5 cm) by 0.77 inches (2.0 cm).

Note that the flight deck is only about 2/3 the length of the ship, so a flight deck decal would be only about 3 inches long. This is not unusually large. For example, the WWII US Ess*x class flight deck was almost 900 feet (275 m) long

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Mr. Scheef
I susspect they would be very amused hehehe, this practice continued with german raiders in ww2 where made to appear as merchantmen.
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