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7.62
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The KDF respects the NCAF and its way of training (keep updating us Mech).
Karma-Naskis is very different, the KDF is a very small peacetime force that relies on conscription for a war time only mobilization.
Our BMT (Basic Military Training) is standard across all forces, regardless of rank. Everyone gets BMT.
8 weeks produces a basic Soldier, be it Army, Navy, Air Force or Border Guard.
After that extra training is given for the required role, anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 years.
It can be infantry soldier or nurse, officer or matlot, pilot or plumber.
But if there are no more tanks, ships or aircraft, they are all Soldiers.

With regard to the continued SF questions from NC. The KDF prides itself on producing after 8 weeks a very good, no BS basic soldier.
Their boots may not be like glass, the drill is not perfect and facial hair is common
However all meet a set physical standard, can use a personal weapon, have thrown a grenade (some LAW or RPG too) and work as a member of a section in defence and attack.
After BMT they are all very confident, motivated and competent.
They understand what their Country is asking them to do and most importantly why!
The aim of BMT is to produce a KDF Soldier that will fight for Karma-Naskis.
They will never ever give in, they will go down fighting, kicking, biting and screaming. They will never ever give in.

For the very few that pass on to the SOG the first lesson is hard.
It is how to know when you can not win! We want thinkers!

The soldier the KDF SOG is looking for is one who who has failed 100 times.
But trys 101.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno. 100 failures might indicate an undesirable tendency. Gator State does not acknowledge use of special forces.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Purpose of the New Canadian Armed Forces is to be the military arm of the New Canadian Government. (Can we please get rid of the NuKanuck name), the people who serve in the armed forces are there to protect the nation from any foreign attack, and to remove threats around the world.

The New Canadian Army is the Sledgehammer, its massed waves of infantry and armor will smash through any opposition it comes across on land.

The RCAF is the Rapier, their fighters and bombers can quickly fly into enemy territory, and strike targets of importance, to weaken the enemy's resolve to fight.

The RCN is the Backbone, their ships and Naval aircraft allows us to deploy our forces to any combat zones and to provide heavy fire support with their Naval guns and cruise missiles to the naval aircraft launched from their Carriers.

We do have regiments that can fill certain roles, such as the Canadian Airborne Regiment who are paratroopers attached to the RCAF, they can drop in friendly lines to support friendly group troops, or go behind enemy lines to capture ground for the rest of the Armed Forces.

But lately through in our battles aginest the AL-Kabab militants and the Brown Trousers, these groups utilized tactics and styles of warfare that is rather unconventional, it has plagued us for a while now, and the most recent example being the Turkish Spec Ops units in Aleppo.

And really your SOG relies on people who are 100 percent failures? that seems counter-productive to have a competent military?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Armed Forces council agrees with Gator State, we don't acknowledge the use of Special Forces as well, its better for the rest of world to disband such Spec Ops forces.

This Councils topic on the matter pertaining to Special Forces has been closed, we will not proceed with the idea of forming a Special Forces unit for the NCAF, due to lack of evidence of their effectiveness as provided by the KDF. (Gavel is tapped on the table.) this meeting is adjourned.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCAF HQ Ottawa head offices.

Knock on the office door

(Chief of the Defence Staff): "Come"

The officer door opens and walking General Thornton, General May, and Admiral Kirk.

(Chief of the Defence Staff): "Ah please come in Gentleman."

(General Thornton): "Well that Special Forces Topic was rather short, though in the end it was hardly worth our time."

(General May): "Indeed, the example that the KDF gave about their Special Forces unit was a joke, they rely on rejects and dropouts to fill in their ranks, not worthy our interests in developing our own Special Forces unit."

(Admiral Kirk): "It wasn't the answers we hoped to get, as the topic was about how they work and operate, what missions do they do, and what equipment do they use? that way we know how to create one from scratch, but i guess its a mute point now thanks to those pot-smokers."

(General Thornton): "Indeed, though It was an rather new and interesting concept, but unfeasible none of less, if only someone from a much better spec ops unit appeared to give us their views, then the outcome would have been different, but with no way nor means of getting a hold of them, nor where they operate, its just a pointless endeavor."

(Chief of the Defence Staff): "yes, but for now, let move away from this topic."

The three Officers leave the Chiefs office The Chief of defense staff looks at the record of the meeting about Special Forces, closes the folder, grabs a rubber stamp and stamps the words "Rejected by the Council." in red letters. and shoves the file under "Failed Projects".
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent choice Mech.

(Admiral Kirk): "It wasn't the answers we hoped to get, as the topic was about how they work and operate, what missions do they do, and what equipment do they use? that way we know how to create one from scratch, but i guess its a mute point now thanks to those pot-smokers."

The missions and the equipment do not matter.
It is the people that count.

Panzer.
I will respect Mechs training, goals and methods.
Do not want to hi jack this thread so will move the KDFs way of thinking to the Karmanaskis posting.
"I dunno. 100 failures might indicate an undesirable tendency." (I will post later tonight).
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks 7.62, but you see the councils decision, their not going to pursue the formation of a Special Forces unit for the NCAF.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good decision, great info, data collection.
A group guys (not special forces at all) went to the hat rack at the O-club, walked out with Adm. Kirk’s hat at lunch, Gen Thornton at breakfast, Gen May from the gym during his workout. See if there are replacement hats. They each have a card in it from Putinville, Gen Gorggie.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris, you do not send a card.
You swap the hat with one that is identical but two sizes too small (still marked as the same size).
Next day switch it back to the original. Give it three days then replace with the smaller one again.
Continue on and off over the next few weeks.
He will end up going to see the doctor about the random head swelling. Almost certain to be given meds or may even be sent for surgery.
Either way his mental security as a leader will always now be in doubt.

"PM the Chief of staff thinks we are about to be invaded."
"Arrg not again, that old balloon head needs to chill out."
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the NCAF HQ.
(General Thornton): "Putinville? Gen Gorggie?"
(Admiral Kirk): "That was on my Hat too?"
(General May): "Who ever this Gorggie is hes trying to impersonate us as members of the Armed Forces Council."

(General Thornton): "Sound a General alarm, order the troops to find and locate those Putinville imposters."

A general alarm was sounded to every CFB base in Ontario to guard the HQ and to locate the imposters.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THERE ya go, Mech. "When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!". Boy, it's like kicking' an ant hill, Watchin' you guys hit the panic button and run around for hours, wastin' gas, expending energy, shouting and waving your arms and generally pole-vaulting over mouseturds. At least you oughta do well in the next Olympics!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a major threat to national security, as Putinville has sent in people to undermine the operations of the NCAF's Administration, we must find these people and remove them.

The Royal 22nd regiment and the Queens Own Rifles Regiment are now guarding the NCAF HQ building in Ottawa.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you know it was Putinville? Could have been Al-Kabab, some of those independent minded Canadians, could have been a Canadian training exercise on clandestine operation.... or any other person, group. Even could have been from a bet a week ago with Kirk and his subordinates.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Chris there was a card inside the hats that Said Putinville, gen gorggie on it.

But still whoever is stealing the flag officers hats for some nefarious purpose , will be found and arrested, besides the NCAF council did not authorize any form of clandestine training. If it was some form of a Special Operations group, it still will not change the councils decision on the matter.

As for Al-Kabab that's doubtful as they are uneducated to know about Spec Ops training.
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