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redleg
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ROD observers are very impressed! Our compliments to you on your fantastic military force! We would definitely like to stick around to observe some of the KDF exercises.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MechCommander wrote:
And just where did Karmanaskis acquire such FCS systems Hmm?


It is all for sale. It is just a matter of careful spending and planing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfGP-dGjjnY

That was the baseline being marketed several years ago. I believe it is now offered with some of the components from the T-14. Not cheap but good bang for the buck.
Karma-Naskis has only acquired 36 so far. Hence keeping the old T-72 TUSK's on hand.
Funding for the next 36 has been requested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cKM3nsog2g

K-21 uses the Samsung Thales set up, not too shabby. Front should stop a 30mm round and it will return you a 40mm with a high hit probability (We planned against BMP-3, LAV 6.0 etc). Also mounts 2x Spike LR with 4 more carried.
Karma-Naskis has received the first batch (30) with two more batches approved.

All just for defence.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have to select for height for your tanks and infantry? I have read several articles that the designs took advantage of their shorter stature.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The RUSSIANS also select for shorter stature.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The New Canadian Observers are not quite happy about Karmanaskis's statement about using our new LAV IV's as Target practice. nor where they impressed by the use of the cowardly and unmanly "UAVs", and the highly illegal Special Operations Forces.

The New Canadian Observers has since left the Demonstration site in a fit of disgust over the KDFs insult, brushing past the ROD observers and boarded their jet for the flight back to Ottawa.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"UNMANLY!!!???". WTF? Special forces may be illegal in Canada, but not the rest of the world. Go ahead, tie another hand behind your back. Warfare isn't a damned high school debate. It is an existential struggle. You better figure out the best way to use every weapon you can get your hands on. Stop reading comic books and get yourself a copy of Sun Tzu. Or you will be just another bootprint in the Canadian mud and somebody else will be sitting in your capital, legalizing marijuana, using drones, and training special forces.

Take your left hand. Reach up over your head and grab your right ear. Now, take your right hand. Reach up over your head and grab your left ear. Get a firm grip, give both hands a good, swift, hard tug and hope you see daylight.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been reading these Imagination threads for sometime now, and though I do not participate, I do enjoy reading some of the story line. Especially when it is accompanied by photos of miniatures. However, one thing has just continued to raise questions in my mind..

Why does New Canada think Special forces are an illegal organization? This has perplexed me for some time now.. The thought that UAVs being un manley is also perplexing, but hey if you like putting troops in unnecessary risk or going into something blindly, that is your purgative. It reminds me of a conversation, back in college, with a guy from the middle east shortly after the first gulf war.. he said the war was unfair because we had all our best stuff and we were so better trained. to which I responded.. um.. duh.. would you play soccer against a lesser team and put in all your second stringers.. Razz

As I wrote this, I am think I shouldn't have.. but like a moth to a flame.........
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason that New Canada despises the use of UAVs as it takes away from the brave people who operate more traditional Recon Aircraft, such as the Short Sunderland flying boat and the CS-2 Tracker for the RCN, and the Avro Lancaster, and the CF-104 Starfighter for the RCAF.

The reason that Special Force is illegal in New Canada is a little bit complicated to explain, but they do see them as untrustworthy.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't tug hard enough.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, fair enough, it's a personal thing, not based on any real world legal reason...ok I am good, I will go crawl back into my home and observe from the sidelines. Thanks for response.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest I never actually read Sun Tzu's Art of War (Nor any Comic Books as im not into that.)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We know.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didnít want you to lie.
Iíve read the treatise, The Art of War, commentary written by Chinese WW2 veteran and General of Communist China. I had started another more contemporary commentary, 4 years ago or so. Have not finished that one.
Have you read ĎOn Warí? I have not, as I understand it, it is more rambling, not as coherent.

Hoth, if you want to be leader of CHIdom or CiCi-dom in the Commonwealth of Chrisdom, let me know. If you want another DOM, we can discuss it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

panzergator wrote:
Do you have to select for height for your tanks and infantry? I have read several articles that the designs took advantage of their shorter stature.


Panzer, I did not think of that , good point.
I have been in the turret of a T-72 and it was ok (5'10") but I was in civis so no kit.
Watching video's of drivers trying to get in any of the types with ERA makes me think I should consider the use of circus folk.
I know some of the older T-types (4 crew) had restrictions on height and were cozy!

Also watching troops in Winter gear de-busing from a BMP-2 is fun if you have the time to watch.

The new K-21 is a much larger beast
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both the ROD and CofC guests got to tour parts of the Bodgeit & Conem Defence compound yesterday.



Today a quick visit to the Karma Navy's new Amphibious Support Ship, just out of dock.
Sea trials are underway.

Photo sent.

Mick.
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