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BurtWolf
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the Italians, I’d probably forgo the radio van. I’d be more interested in a combo of Fiat 508s (x2) and Fiat Topolino with trailers (x3):

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/fiat-topolino-light-staff/2674034/?p

I’d love additional truck selections but that’s just getting greedy. The armored Lancia or Fiat trucks are pretty interesting as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Panzergator - do you have a link to which type of bobcat you want? There are quite a lot of variants.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HiBurtwolf - yes I'd like to see the other trucks too but I've run out of votes for this year! Let's see what the others say on the radio truck otherwise we may end up splitting the vote and getting neither!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, no further comments on the Italian Command pack so I'll list it as the Dovunque Viberti with the Topolino as an alternative in the comments.

Let's move on to another one - Bersaglieri Motorcycle troops. Currently the requests have been for tandem riders with a few tricycles (not side-cars!) plus some parked (un-mounted) motorcycles. What proportions of each do people want?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobcat S450 Skid steer and a similar tracked model. Maybe 3 each per package. It would certainly be something I would commandeer in quantity.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I've put down a T550 Compact Track Loader as the tracked one. Do you want buckets or forks?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buckets
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buckets
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, no takers on the motorcycles.

Any views on the Alpini Infantry? What poses would you want different from the standard Italian infantry pack? Snow gear? Pack Mules? Ski troops? Climbing poses?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CG2 wrote:
Ok, no takers on the motorcycles.

Any views on the Alpini Infantry? What poses would you want different from the standard Italian infantry pack? Snow gear? Pack Mules? Ski troops? Climbing poses?


I would like a mix but not knowing the organization this is purely a guess.

5 two up with riders
1 tricycle with towed(?) weapon(s)
2 parked without riders

How is that?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest Update :

Period Votes Nation Item Note

Cold War/Vietnam 2 USA Special Forces Pack Boonie Hats
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Britain Humber Pig with turret
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Canada AVGP Cougar
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Canada AVGP Grizzly
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Canada AVGP Husky
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Canada Avro Lancaster Mk.10AR
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Canada CF101 Voodoo
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Commonwealth Infantry Pack with SLR and Bush Hat
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Czechoslovakia Dana M1 SPG
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Czechoslovakia M53 / 59 Praga 30mm SPAA
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Egypt/Syria 1967/73 war Infantry Heavy Weapons Pack
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Egypt/Syria 1967/73 war Infantry Pack
Cold War/Vietnam 1 France Cold War Infantry Pack
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Generic Civilian Vehicles "Mostly small European cars with maybe a large Mercedes for ""the Leader"" and small delivery trucks"
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Germany Alpha Jet
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Germany Unimog 419 US Army version
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Germany Wiesel 1
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Great Britain FV703 Ferret 2/5 with Vigilant Missiles I'm assuming it's this one rather than the Swingfire version
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Great Britain Stalwart 6*6 truck
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Israel Infantry FAL and Uzi
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Israel MAR-290 Rocket Launcher
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Jordan 1967 war Infantry Heavy Weapons Pack
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Jordan 1967 war Infantry Pack
Cold War/Vietnam 1 North Vietnam Sappers Shorts,bareheaded with Ak or M16 running or kneeling and prone, wire cutters kneeling, satchels and pole charges running, RPG
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Soviet Union BREM-1 ARV
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Soviet Union BTR-60PU
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Soviet Union TMM Truck-mounted Bridge
Cold War/Vietnam 1 Soviet Union UR-77 Mine Clearing Vehicle
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA A-4 Skyhawk
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA A-6A/B Intruder
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA Centurion with ERA ?Israeli Army
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA F-105 Thunderchief
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA F-4A/B Phantom
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA F-8 Crusader
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA GOER, M-520 Cargo 4 cargo, crane to convert 1 if desired, to recovery
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA GOER, M-559 Fuel Service
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA LVTH-6 105mm
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA M44 155mm SPH
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA M48 with ERA ?Israeli Army
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA M52 105mm SPH
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA M53 155mm SPH
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA M577 Canvas Extension (old-style (70s-80s)) No vehicle, just the tent!
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA Q36 Firefinder Radar
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA Q37 Firefinder Radar
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA T-92 light tank
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA Trailers for M800/900 series trucks
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA Vietnam Heavy Weapons Pack 2 Ground mount M40 106mm RR with crew and ammo, M67 90 mm RR prone, 60 mm mortar, 3.5 inch rocket launcher, Prone and kneeling sniper with M21, Prone and kneeling spotter
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA Vietnam Infantry Pack 2 Standing and kneeling M60 gunner, Running ammo bearer, Standing and prone RTO, Kneeling binocular, Kneeling standing and prone M79, Medic with aidbag or stretcher, Prone and kneeling M16, Prone and kneeling M16 with starlight scope NVD
Cold War/Vietnam 1 USA XM-803 tank

New Range 2 Generic Spacecraft Particularly Saturn V/Apollo
New Range 1 Generic Re-introduce Combat Commands
New Range 1 Generic WW1 & Interwar 1930s civilians - Half in standard poses and the other half reacting to the war around them.
New Range 1 Generic WW1 & Interwar US Mk.VIII tank, Medium Tank Model A 1922, M1 Combat Car etc

Ultra-Modern 4 USA M8 Buford http://www.military-today.com/tanks/m8_buford.htm
Ultra-Modern 3 Generic Civilian Vehicles Cars/SUVs
Ultra-Modern 2 France EBRC Jaguar
Ultra-Modern 2 Generic Civilians News crew, vip, medics, close protection, PMCs etc
Ultra-Modern 2 Germany Wiesel 2
Ultra-Modern 2 Israel Caterpillar D9 Armoured Bulldozer
Ultra-Modern 2 Russia T-15 APC
Ultra-Modern 2 USA M1 Grizzly Engineer Vehicle
Ultra-Modern 2 USA M1 tank turret test bed
Ultra-Modern 1 Britain Ajax Tank
Ultra-Modern 1 Canada Canadian Heavy Infantry Weapons
Ultra-Modern 1 Canada Canadian Infantry
Ultra-Modern 1 Canada Canadian Infantry on Snowmobiles
Ultra-Modern 1 Canada Canadian Rangers Lee Enfield or Colt Canada C.19
Ultra-Modern 1 Canada Lynx recon vehicle
Ultra-Modern 1 China Dongfeng Mengshi Chinese HMMWV
Ultra-Modern 1 China PLA Yak-mounted Infantry http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2019/08/photos-of-day-yak-patrol.html
Ultra-Modern 1 China ZTL-11 8x8 amphibious 105mm assault gun Alternatively - Modern Chinese IFV turrets pack
Ultra-Modern 1 Finland AMOS dual mortar System http://www.military-today.com/artillery/amos.htm
Ultra-Modern 1 Finland Patria AMV
Ultra-Modern 1 France Petit Véhicule Protégé
Ultra-Modern 1 Generic 2-door Toyota Hilux Pickup For technicals
Ultra-Modern 1 Generic Engineers/Sappers
Ultra-Modern 1 Generic Modern Stowage Packs
Ultra-Modern 1 Generic Working Dog pack Military/Security/Police animals
Ultra-Modern 1 Germany Dingo 2A2
Ultra-Modern 1 Germany Lynx infantry Fighting Vehicle http://www.military-today.com/apc/lynx_ifv.htm
Ultra-Modern 1 Germany M3 Alligator Bridging Vehicle
Ultra-Modern 1 Germany Marder 2 IFV
Ultra-Modern 1 Israel Aircraft Decals
Ultra-Modern 1 Italy Orso VTMM (Veicolo Tattico Medio Multiruolo)
Ultra-Modern 1 Russia BREM-K ARV
Ultra-Modern 1 Russia Bumerang APC
Ultra-Modern 1 South Africa Rooikat
Ultra-Modern 1 Sweden/UK BVS 210 Viking
Ultra-Modern 1 Switzerland MOWAG Eagle
Ultra-Modern 1 USA AMPV (Turretless Bradley) Basic Version http://www.military-today.com/apc/turretless_bradley.htm
Ultra-Modern 1 USA AMPV (Turretless Bradley) Mortar version
Ultra-Modern 1 USA Bobcat Compact Loader Bobcat S450 Skid steer & T550 Compact Track Loader (3/3) with Buckets
Ultra-Modern 1 USA LAV-AD Air Defence variant
Ultra-Modern 1 USA M1074 Palletized Load System
Ultra-Modern 1 USA M2001 Crusader

W47 1 Britain Black Prince tank
W47 1 Britain FV214 Conqueror Heavy Tank
W47 1 China Korean War Infantry with DP LMG and type 50 burp guns
W47 1 France ARL44 tank
W47 1 Germany Me 262 A-2a/U2
W47 1 Germany Panzer VII Lowe
W47 1 USA F-2H Banshee
W47 1 USA F-84 Thunderjet
W47 1 USA F-9F Panther
W47 1 USA Korean War Infantry Weapons "3.5"" Bazookas, 81mm Mortars & M1919 MGs"
W47 1 USA LVT(3)C Korean war LVT
W47 1 USA M38 Wolfhound Armored Car
W47 1 USA M48A1 tank No fuel drums
W47 1 USA M51 Heavy Recovery Vehicle
W47 1 USA M59 Personnel Carrier
W47 1 USA M65 Atomic cannon 'Atomic Annie'

WW2 4 Italy Bersaglieri Motorcycle troops 5 two up with riders, 1 tricycle with towed(?) weapon(s), 2 parked without riders or multiples of these proportions
WW2 4 Italy Italian Command Pack 508 CM Coloniale staff car & Dovunque Viberti radio truck/office body (4/1). Alternative to radio truck - Topolino car plus trailer
WW2 3 Italy Alpini Infantry pack
WW2 2 Britain Churchill Kangaroo
WW2 2 Britain Engineers
WW2 2 Germany Engineers
WW2 2 Soviet Union Engineers
WW2 2 Soviet Union Voroshilovets Tractor
WW2 2 USA Engineers
WW2 1 Britain Bailey Bridge Combat Command Similar to US bridge pack
WW2 1 Britain Churchill 'Funnies' add-ons Bullshorn plough, Fascine & Cradle, SBG Bridge & Bobbin (similar to Sherman Accessories pack)
WW2 1 Canada Grizzly Mk.I tank
WW2 1 Canada Ram Mk.I tank
WW2 1 Canada Ram Mk.II tank
WW2 1 Generic Civilian Refugees People carrying all their belongings including a few human powered single axle wagons some with more refugees and others with household goods, children, some walking, some carried
WW2 1 Generic Civilian Vehicles Three cars and a small delivery truck and a larger delivery truck or horse drawn wagon delivery vehicle
WW2 1 Generic WW2 Stowage packs
WW2 1 Germany Focke-Achgelis Fa 223
WW2 1 Germany SdKfz253 Observation Vehicle
WW2 1 Germany SPW P107 half track As modified by 21st Panzer
WW2 1 Great Britain Close Support turrets only for all British tanks
WW2 1 Italy Cavalry pack
WW2 1 Italy Paratroop Infantry Pack
WW2 1 Soviet Union BT-7A 76mm artillery version
WW2 1 USA Harvard Trainer
WW2 1 USA Infantry in Winter Kit
WW2 1 USA M1 Combat car
WW2 1 USA M22 Locust Light Tank
WW2 1 USA M6 Heavy Tank
WW2 1 USA Sherman M4/M4A1 ETO Summer 1944 75mm guns. With split commander's hatch, M34A1 mantlet, applique armor, no loader's hatch
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CG2 wrote:
Ok, no takers on the motorcycles.

Any views on the Alpini Infantry? What poses would you want different from the standard Italian infantry pack? Snow gear? Pack Mules? Ski troops? Climbing poses?


For the motorcycles a mix of mounted and dismounted would be perfect. I'd like the Alpini in regular combat poses for the Eastern Front and Greece. Some pack mules would be great to have in the pack as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CG2 wrote:
Ok, no takers on the motorcycles.

Any views on the Alpini Infantry? What poses would you want different from the standard Italian infantry pack? Snow gear? Pack Mules? Ski troops? Climbing poses?


For the motorcycles a mix of mounted and dismounted would be perfect. I'd like the Alpini in regular combat poses for the Eastern Front and Greece. Some pack mules would be great to have in the pack as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, final clarification question : What do people want in engineer packs?

Command : Officer, radio/runner, SNCO

Vehicle Repair : operating large spanners/screwdrivers?

Mine warfare : Laying A/T mines? Russian mine dogs? (detectors already in some sets)

Route clearance : Axes/Spades/Pickaxes/Bangalores?

Bridge-Building : Pulling ropes/sledgehammers/large spanners/carrying planks?

Building emplacements : Spades/Pickaxes?


Given that there would probably be only 6-8 poses, what are your priorities? Presumably some generic and some country-specific.
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