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Hoth_902
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben,

When I suggested the Up armored Challenger II, I had this in mind.



Its basically the TES without the RPG grates over the drive sproket and no extra armor on the turret. Below are images to show the differences.

Challenger II


Up Armored Challeger II - My suggestion



Challenger II TES


I know when it comes to modern, there is a lot out there that we need as a community. I can also concede that this version is splitting hairs...However, we all have our favorites and this is one of mine. Besides.. GHQs release list is long, every year, so I am sure there will be lots of other tanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't want any of the stuff on the list so no vote from me. :cry:
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ GHQ: thanks gang, love the commitment to customer input.

@Hoth: thanks for the chally II visuals nice post.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soviet Cold War Heavy Weapons all the way! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I get the Challenger II reference now, and I would have preferred the up-armored version to the TES. Perhaps, in the future, the anti-RPG bar armor could be offered as an add-on kit. I'm not a fan, although I understand the utility.

UPDATE!!! I pulled my head out of the dark, nether region it was occupying regarding the M60A2-equipped battalions in Germany. In addition to the two battlions of 3rd AD (1-32AR and 3-33AR, a battalion in 1st AD, 1-37AR and 2 battalions of 64thAR in 3rd ID were equipped with them, as well. There is a question regarding whether or not 2-68 in 8th ID had them, too. So perhaps 5, even 6 battalions were equipped with the M60A2/ At 54 tanks apiece (5-tank platoons, 3 per company, 2 in each company hq, 3 companies, plus 3 in battalion headquarters= 54 tanks per battalion). That would be three battalions in each corps. 3AD and 8ID were V Corps, 1AD and 3ID were VII Corps. Frankly, given my reading over the past couple days, I will vouch for 1-32AR, in which I served, and 3-33AR, which was also in 3AD as complete M60A2 battalions. As far as the rest, I'm kinda confused.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CG1 wrote:
Don't want any of the stuff on the list so no vote from me. Crying or Very sad


Every time that I see something like this I wonder what the point is? Obviously some people are having fun with this, why not just let it go?

BTW, I'm trying to decide between the M60A2 and the Russian weapons. Panzergator, you just made my decision even harder! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it helps, I just read a couple posts concerning the A2 in VII Corps. 1-37AR in 1st AD kept its battalion A2 pure, while 3ID divided their allocation between 3 tank battalions. This being under H series TOE, that meant they each had 2 A1 companies and 1 A2 company. I haven't seen anything in print to verify that, but the posts were supposedly by folks serving in the units at the time. I am awaiting an email answer from a friend who served in Baumholder at the same time I did. We are both contemporary to the issue of A2s, so he may be able to clarify whether or not 2-68AR had A2s. At the moment, I can account for 4 battalions' worth in USAREUR, 2 in each corps, although one of those may have traded two companies to two A1 battalions resulting in three battalions each having 1 company of A2s (64th AR units).
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Panzergator! Sold! I put my vote in for the M60A2. However, there are several of these that look good. I really think that the Russian weapons would probably be a better seller. Was there any mention of a tie? I'm hoping that they may end up making any that get a lot of support.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBoy3 wrote:
How long does the voting stay open?


That's a good question, that we forgot to mention. We have set the poll to end on March 6th. We wanted to let it run for about 2 weeks, and give the full last weekend for anyone to lobby for their choice.

We hope that this is fun for you! You asked for it, and we are doing it! Laughing

Thank you for your support,
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is awesome, thanks GHQ.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is awesome, thanks GHQ.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Bill - the reason I said I wasn't voting is because I was specifically named and encouraged to vote because of past comments supporting the idea so it would be odd if I didn't respond. I fully support the vote principle (and I hope that GHQ do it every year) but I have long realised that because I want Ultra-Modern, non-American, non-armoured skirmish stuff that things I want doesn't come up very often in this sort of poll. For example, the logic of prioritising minor variations to a Challenger II when there's no British AA vehicles or current infantry support weapons escapes me but if that's what people want, that's what they should vote for - I'm one of the few people left on this planet who are still happy with democracy!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Hoth_902:

I understand, I have been guessing in that direction.
On one hand I like the idea of having lots of different modern British AFVs on the other hand this time another item got my vote, at last the British use it as well... Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GHQ,

Great job on this one! They are all great choices, not least because they will all look better after adding the packs and cans and stuff from the winning choice. Heck, even the infantry will look pretty cool carrying a bunch of Jerry cans on a pole across their shoulders like Mad Max


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some ATVs would be a very welcome addition for modern conflicts. . .
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